Matt nods -- Foggy has a point. It probably has something to do with the fact that, assuming he's not out in the mask, he's usually with Foggy. For not the first time, he's still grateful that that's still a thing, that he still has a right to be here, to spend time with his best friend. That it all didn't fall apart in ways he'd never imagined when his mind turned to worst case scenarios.

He looks away at that thought, the distance there meant to be brief. It lingers, when Foggy brings up what he'd had to tell her, even if he doesn't mention it directly, and Matt doesn't look up again.

"Yeah." A pause. "I'm sorry for that, by the way, for -- for making you lie to her." But the less Karen knows about this, the better.